March 26, 2008

more paradoxes- don't just do something, sit there


From punk rock zen teacher Brad Warner's blog:


"I got one question at Karuna that I get a lot. It went something like, "If I take up this zazen practice what will it do for me?"

There are a million variations and every Zen teacher gets them all the time. My friend Greg Fain up at San Francisco Zen Center said that the more you practice zazen the harder it is to answer that question. Lots of times Zen teachers will give what seem like flippant, dismissive answers. "Nothing!" is a pretty common response. But we're not being flippant, really, just honest.

Most meditation teachers try to sell you on their technique, so they have nice pat answers to that question. They'll tell you about reaching equanimity, establishing peace of mind, even reaching Enlightenment. In the long run zazen has all of these benefits too. But I hate to stress them because if you're looking for those things in your practice, the very activity of looking for them prevents you from ever achieving them. It is precisely because you're always looking for peace of mind outside of your own real state of mind that you're never peaceful. It's because you look for Enlightenment outside of this moment that you're never enlightened. You certainly can achieve weird states of mind that unscrupulous teachers will tell you are the states you're seeking. But I wouldn't listen to any of them. What do they know about your state of mind anyway?"

On some level you may indeed be able to say you "get something" out of the daily practice of zazen. I certainly wouldn't have kept it up for 25 years if it was a complete waste of time. But in order to get anything out of it, you need to drop the idea that you'll ever get anything out of it. Just see clearly where you are at this moment. That's enough."

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

I listened to a radio interview with Brad Warner and at one point he was talking about looking for spiritual highs through drugs or religion:

"What is this that I keep coming back to?...this must be something important because we keep finding ourselves here in this mundane world so maybe this is where we should be looking for the truth rather than trying to escape this world and look somewhere else"

Chris said...

Thanks for passing on the quote. Great stuff. I haven't read his book but it was wildly popular. Perhaps,

Chris said...

it would be worth checking out. i've only casually looked at his blog.